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Motivation

Triton 3.8 removed block pointers. tl.make_block_ptr still exists as a symbol but raises at trace time:

NotImplementedError: Block pointers have been removed in favor of the tensor descriptor API

so every kernel using it fails to compile. This is an API removal, not a GPU issue — it reproduces identically on gfx950 and gfx942. ATOM currently has 181 such sites across 15 files, all of which break the moment the Triton wheel moves to 3.8.

Technical Details

All 181 block accesses become plain pointer arithmetic with explicit bounds masks:

file sites file sites
fla_ops/fused_merge_recompute.py 34 fla_ops/wy_fast.py 7
fla_ops/solve_tril.py 28 fla_ops/chunk_o.py 6
fla_ops/chunk_fused.py 24 fla_ops/chunk_o_vk.py 6
fla_ops/chunk_delta_h.py 23 minimax_m3/sparse_attn.py 6
fla_ops/chunk_delta_h_vk.py 23 fla_ops/fused_cumsum_kkt.py 5
fla_ops/cumsum.py 8 fla_ops/chunk_scaled_dot_kkt.py 4
sglang/.../minimax_m3_sparse.py 4 fla_ops/l2norm.py 2
minimax_m3/index_topk.py 1
# before
p = tl.make_block_ptr(base, (T, K), (H * K, 1), (i_t * BT, i_k * BK), (BT, BK), (1, 0))
b = tl.load(p, boundary_check=(0, 1))

# after
r = i_t * BT + tl.arange(0, BT)
c = i_k * BK + tl.arange(0, BK)
b = tl.load(base + r[:, None] * (H * K) + c[None, :],
            mask=(r < T)[:, None] & (c < K)[None, :], other=0.0)

Semantics are preserved exactly:

  • Masks cover only the dims listed in the original boundary_check. Several sites here check just dim 0 (boundary_check=(0,), padding_option="zero"); a dim the author left unchecked was already known in-bounds, and masking it would change codegen for no reason.
  • padding_option="zero" and the default both become other=0.0.
  • <ptr>.dtype.element_ty is retargeted to the base pointer.
  • There is no tl.advance anywhere in the repo, so no pointer-advancing loops needed restructuring.

cumsum.py was converted by hand rather than mechanically. Both of its kernels select between two alternative block pointers in an if/else and then issue a single load, so a naive "nearest preceding declaration" rewrite would silently bind the load to the else variant and drop the if one. The branch-dependent base pointer and stride are hoisted into the branches and the masked access is shared. No other file has this shape.

Test Plan

gfx950, triton 3.8.0+amd.rocm7.1.0.gitf6a045ff:

  1. Confirm zero remaining tl.make_block_ptr sites and no syntax errors repo-wide.
  2. Import all 14 affected modules.
  3. Compile and run the kernels that have a checkable reference, comparing against torch.

Test Result

Zero make_block_ptr sites remain (was 181), no syntax errors, and all 14 affected modules import.

Kernels compiled and ran against torch references:

kernel max |err|
chunk_local_cumsum_scalar (1-D, hand-converted branchy path) 2.4e-06
chunk_local_cumsum_vector (2-D, hand-converted branchy path) 0.0
l2norm_fwd 3.0e-08
solve_tril (vs torch.linalg.inv(I + A)) 5.2e-04

Validation scope — please review with this in mind

The four kernels above are numerically verified. The remaining files — notably fused_merge_recompute.py (34 sites) and chunk_delta_h{,_vk}.py (23 each) — are converted by the same audited transform and import cleanly, but I could not find a test in this repo that exercises them numerically, so they are compile-validated only. Those are the places most worth a careful reviewer pass.

black could not be run here (it targets py3.15, the box has py3.12), so formatting has not been checked against the repo linter.

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yuyzhang512 force-pushed the fix/triton38-drop-make-block-ptr branch from 403ffd8 to a188e33 Compare August 24, 2026 06:23
Triton 3.8 removed block pointers. `tl.make_block_ptr` still exists as a symbol
but raises at trace time:

  NotImplementedError: Block pointers have been removed in favor of the
  tensor descriptor API

so every kernel using it fails to compile. This is an API removal, not a GPU
issue - it reproduces on gfx950 and gfx942 alike.

Convert all 181 block accesses to plain pointer arithmetic with explicit bounds
masks:

  fla_ops/fused_merge_recompute.py  34    fla_ops/wy_fast.py                7
  fla_ops/solve_tril.py             28    fla_ops/chunk_o.py                6
  fla_ops/chunk_fused.py            24    fla_ops/chunk_o_vk.py             6
  fla_ops/chunk_delta_h.py          23    fla_ops/minimax_m3/sparse_attn.py 6
  fla_ops/chunk_delta_h_vk.py       23    fla_ops/fused_cumsum_kkt.py       5
  fla_ops/cumsum.py                  8    fla_ops/chunk_scaled_dot_kkt.py   4
  sglang/minimax_m3_sparse.py        4    fla_ops/l2norm.py                 2
  minimax_m3/index_topk.py           1

Semantics are preserved exactly:

  * masks cover only the dims listed in the original boundary_check; a dim the
    author left unchecked was already known in-bounds, and masking it would
    change codegen for no reason
  * padding_option="zero" and the default both become other=0.0
  * <ptr>.dtype.element_ty is retargeted to the base pointer

cumsum.py needed manual conversion: both of its kernels select between two
alternative block pointers in an if/else and then issue a single load, so the
branch-dependent base pointer and stride are hoisted into the branches and the
masked access is shared.

Validated on gfx950 with triton 3.8.0+amd.rocm7.1.0.gitf6a045ff - kernels
compiled and run against torch references:

  chunk_local_cumsum_scalar   max |err| = 2.4e-06
  chunk_local_cumsum_vector   max |err| = 0.0
  l2norm_fwd                  max |err| = 3.0e-08
  solve_tril                  max |err| = 5.2e-04  (vs torch.linalg.inv(I + A))

All 14 affected modules import cleanly and the repo is free of make_block_ptr.
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yuyzhang512 force-pushed the fix/triton38-drop-make-block-ptr branch from a188e33 to 1e74301 Compare August 24, 2026 06:29
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