diff --git a/src/chatbots/ClaudeVoiceMenu.ts b/src/chatbots/ClaudeVoiceMenu.ts
index f688c487b2..3f23402cb3 100644
--- a/src/chatbots/ClaudeVoiceMenu.ts
+++ b/src/chatbots/ClaudeVoiceMenu.ts
@@ -767,10 +767,9 @@ export class ClaudeVoiceMenu extends VoiceSelector {
       this.menuContent.appendChild(footnote);
     }
 
-    // The door to the full catalog, only when the shortlist hides voices.
-    if (curated.hiddenCount > 0) {
-      this.menuContent.appendChild(this.createMoreVoicesItem());
-    }
+    // The door to the full catalog — always present: it is the navigation
+    // path to the settings catalog, not an overflow marker (#472).
+    this.menuContent.appendChild(this.createMoreVoicesItem());
 
     // Add subtle separators for easier scanning
     this.applyItemSeparators();
@@ -815,7 +814,8 @@ export class ClaudeVoiceMenu extends VoiceSelector {
 
   /**
    * The muted final row linking to the full voice catalog in the extension
-   * settings (AI Chat tab). Rendered only when the shortlist hides voices.
+   * settings (AI Chat tab). Always rendered — it is the menu's path to the
+   * catalog, whether or not the shortlist is hiding voices.
    */
   private createMoreVoicesItem(): HTMLDivElement {
     const item = document.createElement("div");
diff --git a/src/chatbots/PiVoiceMenu.ts b/src/chatbots/PiVoiceMenu.ts
index abbcb274c8..218f6d30bd 100644
--- a/src/chatbots/PiVoiceMenu.ts
+++ b/src/chatbots/PiVoiceMenu.ts
@@ -182,6 +182,12 @@ export class PiVoiceSettings extends VoiceSelector {
     return "saypi-voice-settings";
   }
 
+  // Pi's own settings grid is uncapped, but still gets the door — it is the
+  // only path from this surface to the extension's full voice catalog (#472).
+  protected override showsMoreVoicesDoor(): boolean {
+    return true;
+  }
+
   getButtonClasses(): string[] {
     return [
       "flex",
diff --git a/src/tts/VoiceMenu.ts b/src/tts/VoiceMenu.ts
index d283a48d18..f8bf4ce3c3 100644
--- a/src/tts/VoiceMenu.ts
+++ b/src/tts/VoiceMenu.ts
@@ -143,6 +143,16 @@ export abstract class VoiceSelector {
     return null;
   }
 
+  /**
+   * Whether this surface renders the "More voices" door to the settings
+   * catalog. The door is the navigation path to the full catalog, not an
+   * overflow marker, so capped surfaces always show it; uncapped surfaces
+   * opt in (Pi's settings grid does — #472).
+   */
+  protected showsMoreVoicesDoor(): boolean {
+    return this.getCustomVoiceCap() !== null;
+  }
+
   async refreshMenu(): Promise<void> {
     // remove all voices from the selector
     const voiceButtons = Array.from(this.element.querySelectorAll("button"));
@@ -180,6 +190,9 @@ export abstract class VoiceSelector {
     const cap = this.getCustomVoiceCap();
     if (cap === null) {
       this.populateCustomVoices(customVoices, voiceSelector);
+      if (this.showsMoreVoicesDoor()) {
+        this.addMoreVoicesDoor(voiceSelector);
+      }
       return true;
     }
 
@@ -195,7 +208,7 @@ export abstract class VoiceSelector {
       voiceSelector,
       curated.tiersCoexist
     );
-    if (curated.hiddenCount > 0) {
+    if (this.showsMoreVoicesDoor()) {
       this.addMoreVoicesDoor(voiceSelector);
     }
 
diff --git a/test/chatbots/ClaudeVoiceMenu-curation.spec.ts b/test/chatbots/ClaudeVoiceMenu-curation.spec.ts
index 4b04526850..4e6688f1c4 100644
--- a/test/chatbots/ClaudeVoiceMenu-curation.spec.ts
+++ b/test/chatbots/ClaudeVoiceMenu-curation.spec.ts
@@ -96,11 +96,11 @@ describe("ClaudeVoiceMenu shortlist cap + door (flip-day catalog)", () => {
     expect(openSettingsMock).toHaveBeenCalled();
   });
 
-  it("omits the door row when the whole catalog fits the cap", () => {
+  it("keeps the door row even when the whole catalog fits the cap (#472)", () => {
     const menu = makeMenu();
     menu.populateVoices(flipDayCatalog.slice(0, 3), menu.element);
     const door = menu.menuContent.querySelector("[data-action='more-voices']");
-    expect(door).toBeNull();
+    expect(door).not.toBeNull();
   });
 
   it("keeps the Voice off item", () => {
diff --git a/test/chatbots/PiVoiceMenu-curation.spec.ts b/test/chatbots/PiVoiceMenu-curation.spec.ts
index 9987b5f65f..cbb287b286 100644
--- a/test/chatbots/PiVoiceMenu-curation.spec.ts
+++ b/test/chatbots/PiVoiceMenu-curation.spec.ts
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ vi.mock("../../src/popup/popupopener", () => ({
   openSettings: (...args: unknown[]) => openSettingsMock(...args),
 }));
 
-import { PiVoiceMenu } from "../../src/chatbots/PiVoiceMenu";
+import { PiVoiceMenu, PiVoiceSettings } from "../../src/chatbots/PiVoiceMenu";
 import { PI_MENU_CAP } from "../../src/tts/VoiceCuration";
 import { ElevenLabsVoice, OpenAIVoice, openAiMockVoices } from "../data/Voices";
 import { SpeechSynthesisVoiceRemote } from "../../src/tts/SpeechModel";
@@ -107,12 +107,52 @@ describe("PiVoiceMenu shortlist cap + door", () => {
     expect(openSettingsMock).toHaveBeenCalled();
   });
 
-  it("omits the door and shows everything when the catalog fits the cap (today's 3 voices)", () => {
+  it("still shows the door when the catalog fits the cap — it's the path to the catalog, not an overflow marker (#472)", () => {
     const menu = makeMenu();
     const selector = document.createElement("div");
     menu.populateVoices([...piBuiltIns, ...piElevenLabs], selector);
     expect(customRows(selector).length).toBe(piElevenLabs.length);
-    expect(selector.querySelector("button.saypi-more-voices")).toBeNull();
+    const door = selector.querySelector(
+      "button.saypi-more-voices"
+    ) as HTMLButtonElement;
+    expect(door).not.toBeNull();
+    door.click();
+    expect(openSettingsMock).toHaveBeenCalled();
+  });
+});
+
+describe("PiVoiceSettings door (#472)", () => {
+  function makeSettings(): any {
+    const settings = Object.create(PiVoiceSettings.prototype);
+    settings.chatbot = {} as any;
+    settings.userPreferences = {
+      getVoice: vi.fn(async () => null),
+      setVoice: vi.fn(async () => {}),
+      unsetVoice: vi.fn(async () => {}),
+    };
+    settings.element = document.createElement("div");
+    return settings;
+  }
+
+  it("appends a 'More voices' door to the uncapped settings grid", () => {
+    const settings = makeSettings();
+    const grid = document.createElement("div");
+    settings.populateVoices([...piElevenLabs], grid);
+    expect(customRows(grid).length).toBe(piElevenLabs.length); // grid stays uncapped
+    const door = grid.querySelector(
+      "button.saypi-more-voices"
+    ) as HTMLButtonElement;
+    expect(door).not.toBeNull();
+    door.click();
+    expect(openSettingsMock).toHaveBeenCalled();
+  });
+
+  it("does not duplicate the door on repeated populates", () => {
+    const settings = makeSettings();
+    const grid = document.createElement("div");
+    settings.populateVoices([...piElevenLabs], grid);
+    settings.populateVoices([...piElevenLabs], grid);
+    expect(grid.querySelectorAll("button.saypi-more-voices").length).toBe(1);
   });
 });